Smithsonian Director on Building a Museum for All Americans
Lonnie Bunch III shares the vision behind the network of museums, libraries and the National Zoo

Bunch is one of America鈥檚 preeminent historians and storytellers of this nation鈥檚 history. In 2019, he became the 14th Secretary of the Smithsonian. His duties include overseeing 21 museums, 21 libraries, the National Zoo, numerous research centers and several education units and centers.
Previously, Bunch took on planning and construction of the NMAAHC as its inaugural 聽director in July 2005. He started the effort with one staff member, no collections, no funding and no site for a museum.鈥
Today, the NMAAHC sits on the National Mall next to the Washington Monument. It is one of the top four destination sites at the Smithsonian with more than 11 million visitors since its opening on Sept. 24, 2016.
Bunch鈥檚 appearance at the law school followed a trip by Duke faculty and staff to the NMAAHC, where the secretary served as their tour guide. During the tour, 鈥渢he idea for a discussion here emerged,鈥 Jones said.
North Carolina has formative ties to the development of the NMAAHC. The lead architect, , had been living in Durham for decades before he died in 2019. Several Duke faculty served as advisers in museum planning.
鈥淛ohn Hope Franklin used to say to me that you鈥檝e got to do two things. One, you鈥檝e got to tell the unvarnished truth, and that means there鈥檚 going to be pain, there鈥檚 going to be violence, there鈥檚 going to be issues. But on the other hand, you鈥檝e got to make sure that when people go through the museum, they鈥檙e changed.鈥
Lonnie G. Bunch III
Bunch, a native of New Jersey, also has deep ties to the state. His grandfather was a sharecropper living in Zebulon and attended Shaw University at night.
鈥淚t took him 10 years to graduate college,鈥 Bunch said. 鈥淗e then decided he wanted to be a dentist and went to Howard [University].鈥
Bunch鈥檚 father also attended Shaw and met his mother.
鈥淪o, because of Shaw [and] North Carolina, I am,鈥 he said.
Bunch tells the story of creation of NMAAHC in his new book 鈥溾 At Duke, he shared the philosophies that guided his vision for the museum.
Decades before, Bunch discovered the 鈥渉oly grail鈥 at the foundation of his philosophy of history when he met Princey Jenkins, a 90-year-old man who lived in a cabin on a rice plantation in Georgetown, S.C.where his enslaved grandmother once lived.
鈥(Princey) said to me, 鈥業鈥檓 not sure what a historian does, but if you鈥檙e a good historian, isn鈥檛 your job to help people remember, not just what they want to remember, but what they need to remember?鈥欌 Bunch said. 鈥淎nd that changed everything. That鈥檚 really the subtext of the museum.鈥
Bunch also heeded the advice of the late, celebrated Duke historian John Hope Franklin, who chaired the museum鈥檚 advisory committee.

鈥淛ohn Hope Franklin used to say to me that you鈥檝e got to do two things. One, you鈥檝e got to tell the unvarnished truth, and that means there鈥檚 going to be pain, there鈥檚 going to be violence, there鈥檚 going to be issues,鈥 Bunch said. 鈥淏ut on the other hand, you鈥檝e got to make sure that when people go through the museum, they鈥檙e changed.鈥
Bunch said he hired people who understood his vision and 鈥渨ho also believed that others didn鈥檛 think we can do this. So, let鈥檚 have a little bit of a chip on our shoulder to get this work done.鈥
鈥淭he overall goal was to craft a museum that one the one hand, would force America to deal with its tortured past, but it also had to be a museum that found joy, that would allow you to tap your toes to Duke Ellington or Louis Armstrong or somebody from the hip hop world.鈥
For Black Americans, a museum celebrating the African American experience was long overdue.
From attics, garages, basements long forgotten: the museum has collected more than 35,000 relics, including Bunch鈥檚 first great find: 33 objects that were part of Harriet Tubman鈥檚 legacy, including photos of her funeral and a hymnal book that contained spirituals the great conductor of the underground railroad would sing while traveling in the South.
Bunch secured the collection, worth millions of dollars, with a handshake.
鈥淎nd it鈥檚 that generosity that people were waiting for this story, waiting for a place that would say, 鈥榯his is valuable, this is essential.鈥欌